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Ursula ([personal profile] ursula) wrote2025-02-11 01:01 pm
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February topics: the largest small hexagon

[personal profile] octahedrite suggested a post about "cool geometry topics". I waited until I stumbled on a cool geometry fact via work. This one's elementary but adorable: what's the largest small polygon? For the purposes of this riddle, "small" means that the diameter (biggest distance from one corner to another) is a fixed small number, which we might as well say is 1 unit. Then you try to find the largest area given that constraint.

It turns out that when the polygon has an odd number of sides, the largest small polygon is always a regular polygon. So the largest small triangle is an equilateral triangle, the largest small pentagon has five equal sides and angles, and so forth. But the largest small hexagon is not an equilateral hexagon! You can find a picture of it at MathWorld, see an animation of its rotations at the delightfully old-fashioned website Hall of Hexagons, or read Ron Graham's original paper, which involves an argument via the excellently named (by Conway, unsurprisingly) thrackleations.

The largest small octagons, 10-gons, and 12-gons have also been identified, but for even-sided polygons with 14 or more sides, finding the best one is still an open problem.

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[personal profile] conuly 2025-02-11 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it equivalently easy/difficult to find the smallest small polygon? Or is it one of those weird lopsided things where the two problems turn out to be amazingly uncorrelated?
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[personal profile] primeideal 2025-02-11 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
New to me and amazing, thank you!

The pentagram with an extra point looks like a version of the "can we summon a demon?" "we have demons at home" "the demons at home: weird hexagons" meme :D
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[personal profile] octahedrite 2025-02-12 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)

That's pretty cool. Graham's hexagon looks like a pentagon that's cheating lol. Thanks for sharing!

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[personal profile] hilarita 2025-02-12 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
That is quite a cool geometryt topic. Packing problems can produce some really unintuitive results (at least for me, whose geometric sense can best be described as broken).