sleeves

[ursula]

I'm trying to make sleeves like the ones worn by the woman in the lower left-hand corner or the girl with an apron in the back of this painting:

http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/g/ghirland/domenico/6tornab/62tornab/3birth.html

How do people think they would have been fastened on the upper arm & wrist? Buttons? Lace? Pins? A couple of stitches?

Comments

[foxen.livejournal.com]

I looked at some images I had lying around my computer and thought I found on example of what you are doing but there wasn't enough detail (basically the sleeves just looked like they magically closed in those places). I'll try to remember to look at some book this evening.

[franzeska]

Duct tape, clearly.

[kargashina.livejournal.com]

i'm thinking a lace, based on the other fastenings in the image

My 2p...

[freewaydiva.livejournal.com]

Italian Ren isn't so much for the buttons, IIRC.

I'd hazard a guess that the girl in the back has her sleeves either pinned at the shoulder point, or possibly laced. The wrist probably has a single lacing.

The girl in the front probably has them attached directly to the bodice (or it's an underdress), and laced up the forearm a little ways.

[glasseye.livejournal.com]

Velcro.

:D

[hooveraardvark.livejournal.com]

didn't they use straight pins for everything? eh, probably wrong era.

[gwacie.livejournal.com]

I suspect that the sleeves are sewn to the body at the back of the shoulder (at least that's what I got from the artwork at the time) leaving an opening at the front, as for at the elbow and wrist; well... it could be sewn, or closed with a hook-and-eye or lacing. I'm leaning toward sewn at the elbow and hook-and-eye at the wrist, but that's just me guessing. (a hook-and-eye hides well, was available and means that the sleeve can be opened at the wrist for sliding over the hand.)

Just my theories, feel free to ignore 'em ;)

[countess-e.livejournal.com]

Need some help, little girl? I have candy ... in the form of a whole lot of good Italian sources. Call me, maybe we can meet up at CT's soon and geek.

birth of john the baptist?

[minkoflove.livejournal.com]

are you blessed with a holy child then?

[ayeshadream.livejournal.com]

BTW, I have the pink overgown like the lady on the right (standing in front of the other two in the far right) is wearing. I never wear it, I'm just not a pink kind of girl. Let me know if you might be interested in it, I'd be happy to give it to a good home.